A bigger question to you is:

Why do YOU (and other liberals) so adamantly support THIS SPECIFIC legislation? (HR3200)

Why do YOU so strongly hold on to this one single piece of legislation as the #1 and only possible way to improve healthcare in America?

Why do YOU condem anyone who has concerns about what HR3200 implies or can lead to?

Why do YOU feel this problem, that has been brewing for years and years and years, must be solved right this very second by HR3200 without any comittee review, studies, panels, etc.?

Meanwhile, a member of the SEIU *did* hit a protestor.”

You are kidding me right? You are insinuating that the left is more violent than the right at these protests? MasterPo, would you go to a passion filled debate if you knew liberals were openly brandishing loaded guns? This is a blatant attempt to intimidate the opposition, and you standing up for them is downright DISGUSTING.

“ps- Can you show me how national health care has helped Canada, England, France, Sweeden, et al reduce their national deficits?”

They live longer, are generally healthier, and are therefore more productive citizents – meaning more taxes – meaning more cash to pay off deficits. This isn’t a hard concept to get, and it is the least complicated of the thousands of published paper that show a direct correlation between our financial future, deficit spending and our current health care system.
Which brings me back to my question, the FACTS clearly support and suggest that we make a change, what exactly is your issue was the question posed. An opportunity for you to be involved: in the process, in the discussion, to tell your side of the debate – and all you can muster up is THAT post? Barney Frank was right, it really is like talking to a dining room table.

And I ignored your stupid comment about us needing the government to dress(use a road much? park? Medicare? Police? Fire? etc) as the comment was insipid and not reflective of anyone’s reality. Maybe you live on the same planet as that women in the Barney video.

Sigh.
Rick Beagle

I think Mr. TML’s point about Obamacare was that some people (and a growing number unfortunately IMO) are soooooo lazy and weak minded that if someone from the gov doesn’t tell them to put on pants they’ll go naked all day!

The guy with a gun (I saw the video, did you?) never touched it, never brandished it, and didn’t threaten anyone.

Meanwhile, a member of the SEIU *did* hit a protestor.

Now tell me who is doing the violence.

ps- Can you show me how national health care has helped Canada, England, France, Sweeden, et al reduce their national deficits?

Three links (two are repeats):

Here is healthcare in our country.

This article gives a glimpse into how we have been manipulated.

This article provides those pesky fiscal details that the progressives have been trying to get you folks to read.

I have a question for you, what logical reason do you have for opposing health care reform? Please, if you are trying to save money, help reduce our long term deficit, why then are you opposing reform?

We now have people showing off their guns at these rallies in an attempt to silence discussion at the mere threat of violence (publicity stunt or demonstrationo of their rights my butt). What in God’s name are you folks doing?!

Rick Beagle