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		<title>By: Terry Pratt</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/08/14/california-tax-spend/comment-page-1/#comment-5712</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MasterPo said:

&quot;If you knew anything of American history there is no possible way you can say that with a straight face the Founding Fathers were liberals (as we know it today). The Decleration of Independence and Constitution drip with Conservative values and principles, the core of which is the *minimal* invasion of government into the lives of the citizenry.&quot;


Fortunately, at least *I* know something of American history   You are correct that our country was founded on Conservative values.

It is no accident that property owners were protected by the Founding Fathers when they drafted the Constitution, and renters be damned - and denied the vote, to boot.

That part really warms the cockles of my heart, how about yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MasterPo said:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you knew anything of American history there is no possible way you can say that with a straight face the Founding Fathers were liberals (as we know it today). The Decleration of Independence and Constitution drip with Conservative values and principles, the core of which is the *minimal* invasion of government into the lives of the citizenry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fortunately, at least *I* know something of American history   You are correct that our country was founded on Conservative values.</p>
<p>It is no accident that property owners were protected by the Founding Fathers when they drafted the Constitution, and renters be damned &#8211; and denied the vote, to boot.</p>
<p>That part really warms the cockles of my heart, how about yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. ToughMoneyLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. ToughMoneyLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California rocks? Are you referring to the frequent tremors?  It also burns frequently and taxes heavily. But everyone has his own ideas of what is desirable. Fortunately, I lived in California in my youth and learned then that there were so many better options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California rocks? Are you referring to the frequent tremors?  It also burns frequently and taxes heavily. But everyone has his own ideas of what is desirable. Fortunately, I lived in California in my youth and learned then that there were so many better options.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, we like it here. California rocks. I wouldn&#039;t live anywhere else in the union (well, maybe Colorado and Hawaii), but that&#039;s probably it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, we like it here. California rocks. I wouldn&#8217;t live anywhere else in the union (well, maybe Colorado and Hawaii), but that&#8217;s probably it.</p>
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		<title>By: MasterPo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MasterPo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where to even begin to reply to that tirade, so I&#039;m going to enjoy my weekend instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where to even begin to reply to that tirade, so I&#8217;m going to enjoy my weekend instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Beagle</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/08/14/california-tax-spend/comment-page-1/#comment-5548</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and you still haven&#039;t answered my question Mr. ImAFiscalConservative.  Where is your outrage over having to chip in a few bucks so the governor of SC could make a booty call in Argentina?  Oh I know, you were just helping out a &quot;C street&quot; brother in need....  Personally, I think it&#039;s shameful, and the fact that the SC people don&#039;t show him the door, revolting.

Oh and here is another video showing that world class healthcare you were touting earlier:

http://vodpod.com/watch/2058871-remote-area-medical-takes-mission-to-los-angeles

And of course this lovely quote:
&quot;That point couldn&#039;t have been made clearer than by the man standing in line to get free care at Remote Area Medical&#039;s recent health care &quot;expedition&quot; at the Wise County, Virginia, fairgrounds, who told a reporter he was dead set against President Obama&#039;s reform proposal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and you still haven&#8217;t answered my question Mr. ImAFiscalConservative.  Where is your outrage over having to chip in a few bucks so the governor of SC could make a booty call in Argentina?  Oh I know, you were just helping out a &#8220;C street&#8221; brother in need&#8230;.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s shameful, and the fact that the SC people don&#8217;t show him the door, revolting.</p>
<p>Oh and here is another video showing that world class healthcare you were touting earlier:</p>
<p><a href="http://vodpod.com/watch/2058871-remote-area-medical-takes-mission-to-los-angeles" rel="nofollow">http://vodpod.com/watch/2058871-remote-area-medical-takes-mission-to-los-angeles</a></p>
<p>And of course this lovely quote:<br />
&#8220;That point couldn&#8217;t have been made clearer than by the man standing in line to get free care at Remote Area Medical&#8217;s recent health care &#8220;expedition&#8221; at the Wise County, Virginia, fairgrounds, who told a reporter he was dead set against President Obama&#8217;s reform proposal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Beagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRA only protects one liberty, but I don&#039;t see you crying to them.  Please what a load of crap.  If I reread my post, and yours, my comment listed a number of liberal initiatives that support the constitution, and assorted documents.  You asked, I answered....

The whole constitution is dripping with conservative values?  ROFL.  What planet are you on? 

All men are created equal, unless you are homosexual.

Freedom of Religion if you are Christian

The whole search and seizure thing is okay if you look like a terrorist.

Free from government control and intervention unless you want an abortion.

Freedom of speech, unless it interferes with your corporate goons who then hire armed people to parade in front of an  event to dissuade dissent.

Off the top of my head, making up nonsense to justify the invasion of another country so that corporate cronies can make a few extra bucks I can&#039;t seem to find.

Did you happen to see where the President and his administration were using terrorist threat levels to manipulate public opinion.  Again, not quite sure where that is in the constitution?

And the list goes on.
You sure do talk up a good game but your party&#039;s action seem to indicate a rather abusive relationship with the constitution.  

There is a part of the constitution that talks about the welfare of the people, you must have missed it, and all of the items listed have been extremely helpful and profitable.  Want to guess how many people used those services to get through a tough time and then went on to become very productive members of our society?  Want to guess what the percentage is for people who are permanently on social services?  Seems like those statistics don&#039;t support you or your party&#039;s vision.

You have nothing Rethug, every POS comment you make I can refute with hard facts, but all you seem to have is the koolaid.  Oh but you love those rich white people don&#039;t you?  Can&#039;t stand anyone else, but you will bend over backwards for a rich white man....   Here is a news flash for you, the rich white dudes don&#039;t give a snot about you either, you are just a dumb buffoon in their circus being used to promote views against your own self interest.

You respect Vets?  Liar. Why would anyone who respects vets support the criminals who sent them to die for no reason other than a big payday for their corporate friends?  

The liberals are trying to do something noble with healthcare, and for over thirty years you folks have ignored the arguments, created mass panic, and allowed the insurance industry obscene profits at the expense of our people.  And just when I thought you guys couldn&#039;t sink any lower, you start bringing armed weapons to these events.  Repugnant.

Barnie Frank&#039;s is right, talking to right trash is like talking to furniture.  You folks have nothing, but self righteous indignation and sound bites.

Rick Beagle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRA only protects one liberty, but I don&#8217;t see you crying to them.  Please what a load of crap.  If I reread my post, and yours, my comment listed a number of liberal initiatives that support the constitution, and assorted documents.  You asked, I answered&#8230;.</p>
<p>The whole constitution is dripping with conservative values?  ROFL.  What planet are you on? </p>
<p>All men are created equal, unless you are homosexual.</p>
<p>Freedom of Religion if you are Christian</p>
<p>The whole search and seizure thing is okay if you look like a terrorist.</p>
<p>Free from government control and intervention unless you want an abortion.</p>
<p>Freedom of speech, unless it interferes with your corporate goons who then hire armed people to parade in front of an  event to dissuade dissent.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head, making up nonsense to justify the invasion of another country so that corporate cronies can make a few extra bucks I can&#8217;t seem to find.</p>
<p>Did you happen to see where the President and his administration were using terrorist threat levels to manipulate public opinion.  Again, not quite sure where that is in the constitution?</p>
<p>And the list goes on.<br />
You sure do talk up a good game but your party&#8217;s action seem to indicate a rather abusive relationship with the constitution.  </p>
<p>There is a part of the constitution that talks about the welfare of the people, you must have missed it, and all of the items listed have been extremely helpful and profitable.  Want to guess how many people used those services to get through a tough time and then went on to become very productive members of our society?  Want to guess what the percentage is for people who are permanently on social services?  Seems like those statistics don&#8217;t support you or your party&#8217;s vision.</p>
<p>You have nothing Rethug, every POS comment you make I can refute with hard facts, but all you seem to have is the koolaid.  Oh but you love those rich white people don&#8217;t you?  Can&#8217;t stand anyone else, but you will bend over backwards for a rich white man&#8230;.   Here is a news flash for you, the rich white dudes don&#8217;t give a snot about you either, you are just a dumb buffoon in their circus being used to promote views against your own self interest.</p>
<p>You respect Vets?  Liar. Why would anyone who respects vets support the criminals who sent them to die for no reason other than a big payday for their corporate friends?  </p>
<p>The liberals are trying to do something noble with healthcare, and for over thirty years you folks have ignored the arguments, created mass panic, and allowed the insurance industry obscene profits at the expense of our people.  And just when I thought you guys couldn&#8217;t sink any lower, you start bringing armed weapons to these events.  Repugnant.</p>
<p>Barnie Frank&#8217;s is right, talking to right trash is like talking to furniture.  You folks have nothing, but self righteous indignation and sound bites.</p>
<p>Rick Beagle</p>
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		<title>By: MasterPo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MasterPo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the ACLU only protects *some* of our civil liberties? Oh great. I feel sooooo much better now. But the point was I asked you to show me a liberal agenda in the Constitution and/or Dec. of Ind. and you came back with the ACLU. How nice. Guess that sums it up.

The whole Constitution is DRIPPING with Conservative values: The rights of the people to be free from government control and intervention, the restrictions on government actions on the people and not the other way around, etc. You can&#039;t tell me by the modern definition of &quot;liberal&quot; these are liberal values! I don&#039;t see welfare, food stamps, the right to a house/job/education/healthcare/etc listed anywhere, etc.

And as for the war on terrorism, I have deep respect for vets even idiot ones so I won&#039;t say what I&#039;m thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the ACLU only protects *some* of our civil liberties? Oh great. I feel sooooo much better now. But the point was I asked you to show me a liberal agenda in the Constitution and/or Dec. of Ind. and you came back with the ACLU. How nice. Guess that sums it up.</p>
<p>The whole Constitution is DRIPPING with Conservative values: The rights of the people to be free from government control and intervention, the restrictions on government actions on the people and not the other way around, etc. You can&#8217;t tell me by the modern definition of &#8220;liberal&#8221; these are liberal values! I don&#8217;t see welfare, food stamps, the right to a house/job/education/healthcare/etc listed anywhere, etc.</p>
<p>And as for the war on terrorism, I have deep respect for vets even idiot ones so I won&#8217;t say what I&#8217;m thinking.</p>
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