Comments on: White House Driving Chrysler to the Junk Yard http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/ The Hard Truth about Money and Personal Finance Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:14:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: MasterPo http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4311 MasterPo Sun, 10 May 2009 04:35:15 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4311 BTW, I thought this whole bail out of the auto industry wasn't a handout but an "investment" by the American people via proxy of the federal gov? I thought we the people were going to make a boat load of $$$ from this investment in the next couple of years thereby not only paying off the bailout but making a profit too! What happened to all that talk???? BTW, I thought this whole bail out of the auto industry wasn’t a handout but an “investment” by the American people via proxy of the federal gov? I thought we the people were going to make a boat load of $$$ from this investment in the next couple of years thereby not only paying off the bailout but making a profit too!

What happened to all that talk????

]]> By: Rick Beagle http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4282 Rick Beagle Thu, 07 May 2009 09:45:51 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4282 LOL! I live in the Portland, OR area, and to be honest, the panels were just an experiment (my mind wanders, and they were a result of a Popular Mechanics article - damn them).... You are right in that they work pretty well in the Summer, but during the rainy season (cough) they are pretty much worthless (I still like them though, as the whole setup is pretty fun to play with and my kids love them). There is something magical about selling energy back to the grid that I just can't explain, just too bad I can't get that 365. Given our rain fall (we get a LOT), sometimes I think hooking up my gutters with their own generators would be far more effective (lol... maybe next weekend). I am well aware of the shortages to which you speak, but part of the new smart grid initiatives is to address that problem. If you believe the specs on the Tesla, 45 minutes to recharge and 300 mile range. I'm not sure that I believe all of the claims, but it makes me hopeful for the future. Exciting <a href="http://www.teslamotors.com/buy/buyshowroom.php" rel="nofollow">stuff</a>! Rick Beagle PS - I'm thinking about setting up my garden next year based on the hydroponics model provided by a group in your neck of the woods! If I find the article from which I printed this info, I will link it. Very cool stuff.... LOL!
I live in the Portland, OR area, and to be honest, the panels were just an experiment (my mind wanders, and they were a result of a Popular Mechanics article – damn them)…. You are right in that they work pretty well in the Summer, but during the rainy season (cough) they are pretty much worthless (I still like them though, as the whole setup is pretty fun to play with and my kids love them). There is something magical about selling energy back to the grid that I just can’t explain, just too bad I can’t get that 365. Given our rain fall (we get a LOT), sometimes I think hooking up my gutters with their own generators would be far more effective (lol… maybe next weekend).

I am well aware of the shortages to which you speak, but part of the new smart grid initiatives is to address that problem. If you believe the specs on the Tesla, 45 minutes to recharge and 300 mile range. I’m not sure that I believe all of the claims, but it makes me hopeful for the future. Exciting stuff!

Rick Beagle
PS – I’m thinking about setting up my garden next year based on the hydroponics model provided by a group in your neck of the woods! If I find the article from which I printed this info, I will link it. Very cool stuff….

]]> By: MasterPo http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4278 MasterPo Thu, 07 May 2009 04:15:53 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4278 Rick - The majority of Americans do in fact live in or near the major cities. And all those cities are facing SIGNIFICANT electric supply issues as is. Throw in several thousand additional cars to be charged every day and it only multiplies the problem. Then there is also the literal freedom issue. I can get in my car and as long as I can buy gas I can go anywhere at any time pretty much non-stop. Can't do that with an electric. What's the max range? 40 miles? 50? Let's say even 100. Then how many hours do I have to wait to recharge - that's if I can even find someplace to plug in! ps- Regarding your solar panels, how much electric does it produce in the winter when we have shorter days? Rick – The majority of Americans do in fact live in or near the major cities. And all those cities are facing SIGNIFICANT electric supply issues as is. Throw in several thousand additional cars to be charged every day and it only multiplies the problem.

Then there is also the literal freedom issue. I can get in my car and as long as I can buy gas I can go anywhere at any time pretty much non-stop. Can’t do that with an electric. What’s the max range? 40 miles? 50? Let’s say even 100. Then how many hours do I have to wait to recharge – that’s if I can even find someplace to plug in!

ps- Regarding your solar panels, how much electric does it produce in the winter when we have shorter days?

]]> By: kitty http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4276 kitty Thu, 07 May 2009 03:57:21 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4276 Love my Honda Civic... Toyota Corolla was nice too, too bad I totaled it after only 3 years. Nice check from insurance though, very small loss in value, way more than I would've gotten had it been a Chrysler. No plans for new car for a while (hopefully), have only driven my Honda for 3 years. With any luck, there'll be some nice new technology available by the time I need a new car. Love my Honda Civic… Toyota Corolla was nice too, too bad I totaled it after only 3 years. Nice check from insurance though, very small loss in value, way more than I would’ve gotten had it been a Chrysler.

No plans for new car for a while (hopefully), have only driven my Honda for 3 years. With any luck, there’ll be some nice new technology available by the time I need a new car.

]]> By: Rick Beagle http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4272 Rick Beagle Wed, 06 May 2009 23:43:49 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4272 MasterPo, Perhaps, but not everyone in this country lives in or around NYC. I can plug my car into my garage quite nicely and I have the solar panels on my house (not directly in general because more recharging is at night), wind farm down the street (down the street a LOT, but you get my drift), hydroelectric, or nuclear power charge it up. It will work quite nicely for me and my situation, and if that puts me in the minority, then fine. And besides, the Tesla sedan is sexy (youtube has a dave letterman reveal). Did I mention my love for gadgets in the article a few days back? Gadgets that save me money over the long term and help the planet is just icing on the cake.... :-) Peace. Rick Beagle MasterPo,
Perhaps, but not everyone in this country lives in or around NYC. I can plug my car into my garage quite nicely and I have the solar panels on my house (not directly in general because more recharging is at night), wind farm down the street (down the street a LOT, but you get my drift), hydroelectric, or nuclear power charge it up. It will work quite nicely for me and my situation, and if that puts me in the minority, then fine.

And besides, the Tesla sedan is sexy (youtube has a dave letterman reveal). Did I mention my love for gadgets in the article a few days back? Gadgets that save me money over the long term and help the planet is just icing on the cake….

:-)

Peace.
Rick Beagle

]]> By: MasterPo http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4258 MasterPo Wed, 06 May 2009 19:30:20 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4258 Rick - Electrics will be a flop or a tyranical (yes, I mean it!) mandate from Obama. Where are we going to get the electricity for let's say 50,000 electric cars in NYC or on Long Island plugging in every night to charge?! Especially in light of how Obama is slamming the coal and nuclear energy industry. (Please don't respond with solar or wind.) Rick – Electrics will be a flop or a tyranical (yes, I mean it!) mandate from Obama.

Where are we going to get the electricity for let’s say 50,000 electric cars in NYC or on Long Island plugging in every night to charge?!

Especially in light of how Obama is slamming the coal and nuclear energy industry. (Please don’t respond with solar or wind.)

]]> By: Rick Beagle http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/05/04/white-house-driving-chrysler-to-the-junk-yard/comment-page-1/#comment-4247 Rick Beagle Wed, 06 May 2009 07:35:52 +0000 http://toughmoneylove.com/?p=3492#comment-4247 This is kind of sad, not a single person here really has a high opinion of Chrysler. Irrespective of this current deal, the vast majority of us here think that the cars were garbage (and they were/are). The question I have is not who is going to buy their cars, but who was buying their cars in the first place? Honestly, I was kind of pulling for the little Volt, but now that Tesla has that sedan (for close to the same amount of money).... This is kind of sad, not a single person here really has a high opinion of Chrysler. Irrespective of this current deal, the vast majority of us here think that the cars were garbage (and they were/are). The question I have is not who is going to buy their cars, but who was buying their cars in the first place?

Honestly, I was kind of pulling for the little Volt, but now that Tesla has that sedan (for close to the same amount of money)….

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