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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/04/28/money-gadgets-lif/comment-page-1/#comment-4186</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TMN - it all depends on your definition of happiness. Yes, I enjoy opera, and it&#039;s great that I can afford nice tickets to the Met. But on the other hand, if my dream is to sing opera, money will be of limited help. Money may be somewhat helpful in the presence of great talent - lessons, travel, no worry for making a living, but money cannot buy talent. 

Nor can money buy really important things - like love, children, health. Yes, if you are a rich man it may be easier for you to find a young pretty thing if that is what you want. With women it may be the opposite - men often feel threatened by more successful women. But in terms of really finding a soul mate or having a good marriage, money have limited usefulness - they reduce contention but may introduce other problems. Do rich really have a smaller divorce rate? Similarly with health: yes, money can help with finding a good doctor, but no money in the world will buy you good genes. Money can buy fertility treatments, but they wouldn&#039;t guarantee someone a child.  

I do agree about your last paragraph though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TMN &#8211; it all depends on your definition of happiness. Yes, I enjoy opera, and it&#8217;s great that I can afford nice tickets to the Met. But on the other hand, if my dream is to sing opera, money will be of limited help. Money may be somewhat helpful in the presence of great talent &#8211; lessons, travel, no worry for making a living, but money cannot buy talent. </p>
<p>Nor can money buy really important things &#8211; like love, children, health. Yes, if you are a rich man it may be easier for you to find a young pretty thing if that is what you want. With women it may be the opposite &#8211; men often feel threatened by more successful women. But in terms of really finding a soul mate or having a good marriage, money have limited usefulness &#8211; they reduce contention but may introduce other problems. Do rich really have a smaller divorce rate? Similarly with health: yes, money can help with finding a good doctor, but no money in the world will buy you good genes. Money can buy fertility treatments, but they wouldn&#8217;t guarantee someone a child.  </p>
<p>I do agree about your last paragraph though.</p>
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		<title>By: TMN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What nonsense. Of course happiness is purchased. If I enjoy music and I have nothing on which to play it, I can increase my happiness by buying a music playback device. If I enjoy books and have none, I can increase my happiness by buying some (either directly or indirectly by virtue of my taxes funding a library system).

The critical point you&#039;re ignoring about the Amish is that they&#039;re a self selecting group. Their young adults are actively encouraged to go explore the rest of the world and see what they&#039;re missing out on, and the ones who realize that they are more happy there than in a technology-free environment don&#039;t return to it.

I think a better conclusion might be that human beings are, on average, just about as good at maximizing their own happiness given limited means as they always have been. Those that find pleasure in expensive things will find a way to get them, and those that value freedom and leisure time over a high income will find a way to sustain themselves as well. It seems quite reasonable that this basic aspect of human nature would remain pretty stable from one decade to the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What nonsense. Of course happiness is purchased. If I enjoy music and I have nothing on which to play it, I can increase my happiness by buying a music playback device. If I enjoy books and have none, I can increase my happiness by buying some (either directly or indirectly by virtue of my taxes funding a library system).</p>
<p>The critical point you&#8217;re ignoring about the Amish is that they&#8217;re a self selecting group. Their young adults are actively encouraged to go explore the rest of the world and see what they&#8217;re missing out on, and the ones who realize that they are more happy there than in a technology-free environment don&#8217;t return to it.</p>
<p>I think a better conclusion might be that human beings are, on average, just about as good at maximizing their own happiness given limited means as they always have been. Those that find pleasure in expensive things will find a way to get them, and those that value freedom and leisure time over a high income will find a way to sustain themselves as well. It seems quite reasonable that this basic aspect of human nature would remain pretty stable from one decade to the next.</p>
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		<title>By: CLB</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/04/28/money-gadgets-lif/comment-page-1/#comment-4177</link>
		<dc:creator>CLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it goes back to a person&#039;s nature.  If you are never satisfied with what you have, getting more won&#039;t help matters.  On the other hand, if you&#039;re happy with no gadgets, you won&#039;t be any less happy with an ipod.  The trick seems to be recognizing the fact that happiness isn&#039;t purchased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it goes back to a person&#8217;s nature.  If you are never satisfied with what you have, getting more won&#8217;t help matters.  On the other hand, if you&#8217;re happy with no gadgets, you won&#8217;t be any less happy with an ipod.  The trick seems to be recognizing the fact that happiness isn&#8217;t purchased.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/04/28/money-gadgets-lif/comment-page-1/#comment-4175</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A post in which we can all co-exist and be happy (or be sad at my patheticness grr)
It&#039;s past midnight here. 

I personally think adapting up is easier... Just worse for you, buying things prematurely that is. Have you seen this skit on ... Conan? about this traveler who is pissed that the wifi in AIRPLANES (not airports...) is slow?

On the bright side I&#039;ve yet to buy any new pieces of tech, I get to &quot;play&quot; with them via research (new desktop and laptop!) along w/ raffles for mp3 players (2 ipods =) ).

The most high-tech thing I&#039;ve bought is probably my 3 level floor lamp. Switching over from material goods to digital items?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post in which we can all co-exist and be happy (or be sad at my patheticness grr)<br />
It&#8217;s past midnight here. </p>
<p>I personally think adapting up is easier&#8230; Just worse for you, buying things prematurely that is. Have you seen this skit on &#8230; Conan? about this traveler who is pissed that the wifi in AIRPLANES (not airports&#8230;) is slow?</p>
<p>On the bright side I&#8217;ve yet to buy any new pieces of tech, I get to &#8220;play&#8221; with them via research (new desktop and laptop!) along w/ raffles for mp3 players (2 ipods =) ).</p>
<p>The most high-tech thing I&#8217;ve bought is probably my 3 level floor lamp. Switching over from material goods to digital items?</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think I am addicted to the internet these days =)&quot;
Me too. I should be in bed sleeping, it&#039;s almost midnight.

Don&#039;t care much about other gadgets though. I am a fairly late adapter of technology even thought I work in software R&amp;D...

Yes, humans adapt. It&#039;s more difficult to adapt up than down but after a period of time we just get used to the new state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think I am addicted to the internet these days =)&#8221;<br />
Me too. I should be in bed sleeping, it&#8217;s almost midnight.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t care much about other gadgets though. I am a fairly late adapter of technology even thought I work in software R&amp;D&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, humans adapt. It&#8217;s more difficult to adapt up than down but after a period of time we just get used to the new state.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Beagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit a deep and profound love for the whiz bang gadgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit a deep and profound love for the whiz bang gadgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bennett</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2009/04/28/money-gadgets-lif/comment-page-1/#comment-4166</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want out friends to like us. We want the sorts of people who we like to like us. If all of our friends one day woke up and said &quot;cell phones are dumb,&quot; we would all of a sudden lose interest in cell phones.

Some technology is great. There&#039;s no question about it. Some is a waste of time and money. I think we flatter ourselves to believe that we are sorting through it all and making conscious choices as to which gadgets fall into which category. We use shortcuts. We look to our friends for clues and hints and suggestions.

Marketing of course plays on this. Marketing tries to tell us what our friends will think is cool without us having to check with our friends. The marketers have budgets big enough to be a lot more sophisticated on offense than we can hope to be on defense.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want out friends to like us. We want the sorts of people who we like to like us. If all of our friends one day woke up and said &#8220;cell phones are dumb,&#8221; we would all of a sudden lose interest in cell phones.</p>
<p>Some technology is great. There&#8217;s no question about it. Some is a waste of time and money. I think we flatter ourselves to believe that we are sorting through it all and making conscious choices as to which gadgets fall into which category. We use shortcuts. We look to our friends for clues and hints and suggestions.</p>
<p>Marketing of course plays on this. Marketing tries to tell us what our friends will think is cool without us having to check with our friends. The marketers have budgets big enough to be a lot more sophisticated on offense than we can hope to be on defense.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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