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	<title>Comments on: Our Economy Needs More Engineers and Fewer MBA’s</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://toughmoneylove.com/2008/10/17/our-economy-needs-more-engineers-and-fewer-mba%e2%80%99s/comment-page-1/#comment-9709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the sentiment. America needs to return to the idea of making a product instead of selling paper money schemes to each other. However, there is not enough jobs for US engineers, and they are considered like a piece of furniture, easily replaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the sentiment. America needs to return to the idea of making a product instead of selling paper money schemes to each other. However, there is not enough jobs for US engineers, and they are considered like a piece of furniture, easily replaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Murfinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murfinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.

I&#039;m an aerospace engineer. MBA morons are pretty much dismantling our industry. Expect Aerospace to go the way of Detroit in ~10 years. It&#039;s sad. I am going back to Canada...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an aerospace engineer. MBA morons are pretty much dismantling our industry. Expect Aerospace to go the way of Detroit in ~10 years. It&#8217;s sad. I am going back to Canada&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. ToughMoneyLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. ToughMoneyLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jamal:  The problem with Wall Street MBA&#039;s is that they have tried to create an entire industry in securitization and leverage as if these were real products with intrinsic value.  The underlying assets (real estate) were produced by others.  It&#039;s sort of what Enron was doing with energy &quot;products&quot; until it&#039;s fantasy balance sheet got exposed.  We need real products and that&#039;s what engineers bring to the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jamal:  The problem with Wall Street MBA&#8217;s is that they have tried to create an entire industry in securitization and leverage as if these were real products with intrinsic value.  The underlying assets (real estate) were produced by others.  It&#8217;s sort of what Enron was doing with energy &#8220;products&#8221; until it&#8217;s fantasy balance sheet got exposed.  We need real products and that&#8217;s what engineers bring to the table.</p>
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		<title>By: jamal JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamal JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a design engineer with an advanced degree, I do agree with you on the need for more quality engineers but we need the MBAs too. Engineers in general don&#039;t know much about running a business, so it&#039;s important to have good MBAs in a company. The MBAs on Wall St. who work on financial instruments have their role in the economy as well. The general public need such instruments for investements etc. The only thing is that the investors have to be wise and pay more attention to what they are investing in. Also, the free market should be allowed to work. Those MBAs who mess up should be allowed to fail; the government shouldn&#039;t assume the risk of poor judgement. Failure is essential in free markets since that&#039;s what weeds out poor judgement makers and allows resources to go to those who are better stewards of those resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a design engineer with an advanced degree, I do agree with you on the need for more quality engineers but we need the MBAs too. Engineers in general don&#8217;t know much about running a business, so it&#8217;s important to have good MBAs in a company. The MBAs on Wall St. who work on financial instruments have their role in the economy as well. The general public need such instruments for investements etc. The only thing is that the investors have to be wise and pay more attention to what they are investing in. Also, the free market should be allowed to work. Those MBAs who mess up should be allowed to fail; the government shouldn&#8217;t assume the risk of poor judgement. Failure is essential in free markets since that&#8217;s what weeds out poor judgement makers and allows resources to go to those who are better stewards of those resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt @ Steadfast Finances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt @ Steadfast Finances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PBS and CNBC put up some rather frightening stats on this subject several months ago comparing the U.S. to other foreign nations - particularly China.  Something like 90% of Chinese grads are engineering/R&amp;D related versus the U.S. in the low teens.
  
Like you, I seemingly converted to the dark side since I&#039;m a former scientist turned independent trader.  However, my conversion was driven by an economic system that allows a 25 year old Ivy League MBA grad w/ a juiced in resume to have a higher salary than seasoned professionals who are the real IP generators for his or her company.  

Perhaps the adage &quot;those who can&#039;t do, teach&quot; should be converted to &quot;those who can&#039;t create, manage&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PBS and CNBC put up some rather frightening stats on this subject several months ago comparing the U.S. to other foreign nations &#8211; particularly China.  Something like 90% of Chinese grads are engineering/R&amp;D related versus the U.S. in the low teens.</p>
<p>Like you, I seemingly converted to the dark side since I&#8217;m a former scientist turned independent trader.  However, my conversion was driven by an economic system that allows a 25 year old Ivy League MBA grad w/ a juiced in resume to have a higher salary than seasoned professionals who are the real IP generators for his or her company.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the adage &#8220;those who can&#8217;t do, teach&#8221; should be converted to &#8220;those who can&#8217;t create, manage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. ToughMoneyLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. ToughMoneyLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>richgirl:  Another thing the MBA types do is assign the best engineers to &quot;cost reduction&quot; rather than innovation.  That is a huge demotivator.  Thanks for visiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>richgirl:  Another thing the MBA types do is assign the best engineers to &#8220;cost reduction&#8221; rather than innovation.  That is a huge demotivator.  Thanks for visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: richgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>richgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. It&#039;s too bad that we don&#039;t value people with practical skills in this country, though. In my area, engineering is for nerds and blue collar kids trying to move up in the world. That, and the weed-em-out mentality of many engineering schools (I&#039;m an engineer myself), makes engineering an unattractive option for many people. Also, the MBA-types running companies see engineers as an expense to be minimized, not a resource, so guess which jobs are the first to go in a downturn? Yep, the R&amp;D jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. It&#8217;s too bad that we don&#8217;t value people with practical skills in this country, though. In my area, engineering is for nerds and blue collar kids trying to move up in the world. That, and the weed-em-out mentality of many engineering schools (I&#8217;m an engineer myself), makes engineering an unattractive option for many people. Also, the MBA-types running companies see engineers as an expense to be minimized, not a resource, so guess which jobs are the first to go in a downturn? Yep, the R&amp;D jobs.</p>
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